Possible generici in Alfredo, Alfredo
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Possible generici in Alfredo, Alfredo
In response to a request from Ciavazzaro, here is the topic to find possible generici in Alfredo, Alfredo (1972), starting by identifying all the known credited actors and known uncredited actors as we did with L'oro di Roma, then we can start to make deductions from whoever is left over.
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Credited actors - opening credits
Dustin Hoffman - Alfredo Sbisà
Stefania Sandrelli - Maria Rosa Cavaroni
Carla Gravina - Carolina Betti
Saro Urzi - Maria Rosa's father
Duilio Del Prete - Oreste
Luigi Baghetti (Gino Baghetti) - Alfredo's father
Renzo Marignano - The gynecologist (other sites list him as The doctor)
Danika La Loggia - Maria Rosa's mother
Clara Colosimo - Carolina's mother
Dustin Hoffman - Alfredo Sbisà
Stefania Sandrelli - Maria Rosa Cavaroni
Carla Gravina - Carolina Betti
Saro Urzi - Maria Rosa's father
Duilio Del Prete - Oreste
Luigi Baghetti (Gino Baghetti) - Alfredo's father
Renzo Marignano - The gynecologist (other sites list him as The doctor)
Danika La Loggia - Maria Rosa's mother
Clara Colosimo - Carolina's mother
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Credited actors - closing credits
Vincenzo Cannavale (Enzo Cannavale) - Guest at second wedding (other sites say he plays a lawyer of Alfredo's)
Daniele Patella - ? (IMDb says he plays Carolina's father)
Elisabetta Vito (Elisabetta Genovese) - Crucifissa
Emanuela Fallini - Nora
Jean Dumontet - ?
Gianni Rizzo - ? (various sites say he should play a judge)
Pier Anna Quaia (Ursula Davis) - Irene
Mario Frera - Alfredo's lawyer
Loredana Martinez - Gianna
André Fouché - ?
Vittorio Duse - Judge
Giuseppe Caracciolo - ?
Fernando Cerulli - ? (various sites say he should play a judge)
Ettore Geri - Bank manager
Carlo Dori - Servant
Other websites leave this actor unidentified and list Sandro Dori uncredited in this role, however Carlo, who is presumably Sandro's brother, looks slightly different and is known to me from other films
Gianni Pulone (c.s.c.) - ?
Francesco D'Adda - Justice at second wedding
Enzo Ricciardi - ? (various sites say he should play a judge)
Vittorio Fanfoni (c.s.c.) - ?
Nazareno Cardarelli (Nazzareno Caldarelli) - ?
Ugo Silvestri - Priest presiding at first wedding
Vincenzo Cannavale (Enzo Cannavale) - Guest at second wedding (other sites say he plays a lawyer of Alfredo's)
Daniele Patella - ? (IMDb says he plays Carolina's father)
Elisabetta Vito (Elisabetta Genovese) - Crucifissa
Emanuela Fallini - Nora
Jean Dumontet - ?
Gianni Rizzo - ? (various sites say he should play a judge)
Pier Anna Quaia (Ursula Davis) - Irene
Mario Frera - Alfredo's lawyer
Loredana Martinez - Gianna
André Fouché - ?
Vittorio Duse - Judge
Giuseppe Caracciolo - ?
Fernando Cerulli - ? (various sites say he should play a judge)
Ettore Geri - Bank manager
Carlo Dori - Servant
Other websites leave this actor unidentified and list Sandro Dori uncredited in this role, however Carlo, who is presumably Sandro's brother, looks slightly different and is known to me from other films
Gianni Pulone (c.s.c.) - ?
Francesco D'Adda - Justice at second wedding
Enzo Ricciardi - ? (various sites say he should play a judge)
Vittorio Fanfoni (c.s.c.) - ?
Nazareno Cardarelli (Nazzareno Caldarelli) - ?
Ugo Silvestri - Priest presiding at first wedding
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Before I go any further I need to address a glaring question here. Gianni Rizzo and Enzo Ricciardi, who are the 2 most familiar actors to me in this cast, do not appear in the English language copy of the film from which I took the images. Since they, along with Fernando Cerulli, are credited as playing judges on many websites, I can only assume that they must feature in an additional courtroom scene which was cut from the English language print. Not a great start!
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Ricciardi absolutely plays the judge (we have pics for him) so it looks likes as always some scenes have been cut from the american version.
Can you tell the exactly runtime of your version so we compare it with the italian one ?
Can you tell the exactly runtime of your version so we compare it with the italian one ?
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My copy is 1:43.08 - IMDb says it should be 1:47Ciavazzaro wrote: ↑23/02/2020, 16:07Ricciardi absolutely plays the judge (we have pics for him) so it looks likes as always some scenes have been cut from the american version.
Can you tell the exactly runtime of your version so we compare it with the italian one ?
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I found a copy with italian titles which runs 1.47 in the worst case i will try to make comparisons between the two version and i will add the more actors not present in your version.
Here the italian version:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQDVgWtsc3c
Here the italian version:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQDVgWtsc3c
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Identified uncredited actors
Manlio Dalla Pria - Hotel desk clerk
Silvio Klein - Train passenger
Teresa Rossi Passante - Train passenger
Franca Scagnetti - A servant
Silla Bettini - Barber
Vera Drudi - Servant
Manlio Dalla Pria - Hotel desk clerk
Silvio Klein - Train passenger
Teresa Rossi Passante - Train passenger
Franca Scagnetti - A servant
Silla Bettini - Barber
Vera Drudi - Servant
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Thanks, I'll check through that copy for the missing courtroom scene before I start to add the unidentified actorsCiavazzaro wrote: ↑23/02/2020, 16:12I found a copy with italian titles which runs 1.47 in the worst case i will try to make comparisons between the two version and i will add the more actors not present in your version.
Here the italian version:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQDVgWtsc3c
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I've scanned through that You Tube copy, but while the running time is longer I still don't see the courtroom scene with the 3 missing judges. Do you remember where in the film the scene was or do you still have the subtitled copy you took the images of Ricciardi from?Ciavazzaro wrote: ↑23/02/2020, 16:12I found a copy with italian titles which runs 1.47 in the worst case i will try to make comparisons between the two version and i will add the more actors not present in your version.
Here the italian version:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQDVgWtsc3c