Messalina (1951)

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Re: Messalina (1951)

Post by PeplumParadise » 17/11/2021, 1:02

FatmanDan wrote:
17/11/2021, 0:54
Almirante is the guy in 1 + 5, I think.
I was thinking he's probably the snake handler in 30 and 41, seems more like the online images of him

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Re: Messalina (1951)

Post by PeplumParadise » 17/11/2021, 9:48

Johan Melle wrote:
17/11/2021, 0:24

Isn't that Fortunato Arena again on the left in 8?

Girl in 20-21 is Siva Fazi. Role already in her topic, but my pics were from a much poorer source.

Girl on the left in 53 is Terry Dalton. Already identified.

Giuliana Farnese is also a spectator in the arena. Didn't spot her here, but pics are already in her topic albeit from a lesser source.
I'd wondered about that as a second role for Arena, so, since you think the same, then I guess it probably is him.

Farnese seems to have been overlooked due to being in some shots, but there being a man in her place in others. The continuity for the spectators is all over the place, with Tocci, Leone lookalike and the Balducci lookalike all turning up in several positions, while others, like Farnese, are there in some shots but have disappeared in others.

I'll upgrade the images when I add the links in the various topics - unfortunately with Fazi she's always slightly out-of-focus due to only being seen as the camera pans past her.
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Re: Messalina (1951)

Post by PeplumParadise » 17/11/2021, 10:19

Maybe Alberto Plebani?
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Re: Messalina (1951)

Post by PeplumParadise » 17/11/2021, 15:51

Unidentified credited actor Luigi Almirante.

Dan suggests he might be the Jewellery merchant (above), while I am more inclined towards the snake handler (below). Both are small speaking roles so either could be credited. What do others think?
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Re: Messalina (1951)

Post by Johan Melle » 17/11/2021, 17:16

PeplumParadise wrote:
17/11/2021, 10:19
Maybe Alberto Plebani?
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Yeah, I think you're right. He's someone I'm familiar with, but I was a bit thrown by the hairstyle. He usually has his hair combed back.

PeplumParadise wrote:
17/11/2021, 15:51
Unidentified credited actor Luigi Almirante.

Dan suggests he might be the Jewellery merchant (above), while I am more inclined towards the snake handler (below). Both are small speaking roles so either could be credited. What do others think?
luigi-almirante-senza-titolo-7f350b35-7fa5-41db-a2f7-aaec8896ff3e-side.jpgvlcsnap-2021-11-16-10h43m57s046-side.jpguk41a-side.jpg
For me the jewellery merchant best matches his features.

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Re: Messalina (1951)

Post by carlos » 17/11/2021, 20:18

PeplumParadise wrote:
17/11/2021, 15:51
Unidentified credited actor Luigi Almirante.

Dan suggests he might be the Jewellery merchant (above), while I am more inclined towards the snake handler (below). Both are small speaking roles so either could be credited. What do others think?
luigi-almirante-senza-titolo-7f350b35-7fa5-41db-a2f7-aaec8896ff3e-side.jpgvlcsnap-2021-11-16-10h43m57s046-side.jpguk41a-side.jpg
IMO it's for sure the jewelry merchant, here you can even see the wart
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Re: Messalina (1951)

Post by Ciavazzaro » 18/11/2021, 1:58

In order to identify some of the credited on Anica

Pino Locchi is one of the italians most famous dubbers (the official of Sean Connery until his death and Stanley Baker in lizard's in a woman's skin just to name a giallo) so should not be hard to found a photo of him younger

Alma De Rio looks like can be a generica, since it looks majority of her roles are uncredited
Sfida al diavolo
Stripper
1954Giulietta e Romeo (uncredited)
1954Il maestro di Don Giovanni (uncredited)
1953Vortice (uncredited)
1952Bellezze in moto-scooter
1952Canzoni di mezzo secolo
1952Ragazze da marito (uncredited)
1951Messalina (uncredited)
1951Amo un assassino (uncredited)
1950Domenica d'agosto (uncredited)

Elsa Pavani according to Imdb is also credited in
L'eroe sono io!
1951Messalina (uncredited)
1951Il mago per forza
1951Sette ore di guai
Bettina (uncredited)
195047 morto che parla
1950Totò sceicco

Livia Cordaro
Le inchieste del commissario Maigret (TV Series)
La madre di Heurtin
- Una vita in gioco (1965) ... La madre di Heurtin
1964Extraconiugale
1964Così è (se vi pare) (TV Movie)
Signora Cini
1961Barabba (uncredited)
1961Giosafatte Talarico (TV Movie)
Vecchia comare
1960La pisana (TV Mini Series)
- Episodio #1.6 (1960)
1959Perfide.... ma belle
Angelantonia Garofalo's Mother (uncredited)
1959Le notti dei Teddy Boys
1959Tutti innamorati
1958Le dritte (uncredited)
1958I prepotenti (uncredited)
1954La cortigiana di Babilonia
1953La figlia del forzato
1953Bufere (uncredited)
1951Messalina (uncredited)

Maria Pia Bernardini
Ro.Go.Pa.G.
Stripteaser (segment "La ricotta") (uncredited)
1962Mamma Roma
La sposa (The Bride)
1958Il bacio del sole (Don Vesuvio)
Maria (as Maria Pia Bernardini)
1953Legione straniera
1952La regina di Saba
1952Cento piccole mamme (as Maria Pia Bernardini)
1951Messalina (uncredited)

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Re: Messalina (1951)

Post by PeplumParadise » 18/11/2021, 18:46

I've no idea who he is, but the actor playing the nobleman at the arena in 114 seems to be a match for the Christian prisoner here on the left in Le schiave di Cartagine which I've just been looking at. Maybe one worth keeping an eye out for, he has a quite distinctive long chin.
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