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Post by carlos » 13/04/2022, 16:57

PeplumParadise wrote:
13/04/2022, 9:48
Steven Smith mentioned that he thinks the slave on the right in 60 seems like Harold Bradley.
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Looks like him
PeplumParadise wrote:
13/04/2022, 9:48
I had similarly considered the slave beside him, on the right in 59, as possibly "Slim Shady", but rejected him for the same reasons.
The face doesn't seem quite right, not long enough whereas the possible Harold Bradley seems right AR-wise.
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Maybe they were made up to look blacker than they were naturally?
could be...

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Post by Johan Melle » 13/04/2022, 20:26

PeplumParadise wrote:
13/04/2022, 9:48
Steven Smith mentioned that he thinks the slave on the right in 60 seems like Harold Bradley. I had originally considered this and rejected the idea as he doesn't seem muscular enough and the skin seems too dark. I had similarly considered the slave beside him, on the right in 59, as possibly "Slim Shady", but rejected him for the same reasons. Now I'm not sure, both seem too dark-skinned here, the faces looking darker than their more natural body colours. Maybe they were made up to look blacker than they were naturally? What do others think?
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Not Harold Bradley in my opinion. Quite possibly he has been painted to make the skin appear darker (there is something that seems off about the complexion), but something about the face seems wrong, and I agree he doesn't quite have the right body type.

As for "Slim Shady", it looks like him, but at the same time, something seems wrong, so I'm leaning more towards no.

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Post by FatmanDan » 21/03/2024, 0:36

The guy holding the horses in 24 is Antonio Danesi, on of the bunch of "Stagecoach driving" stunt actors.
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And is this Harold Bradley on the very right in 60?
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Post by PeplumParadise » 21/03/2024, 1:14

FatmanDan wrote:
21/03/2024, 0:36
The guy holding the horses in 24 is Antonio Danesi, on of the bunch of "Stagecoach driving" stunt actors.
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And is this Harold Bradley on the very right in 60?
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Thanks, I'll add Danesi in the morning.

Bradley was already discussed in the 3 posts immediately above this one.

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Post by FatmanDan » 21/03/2024, 1:25

Right, Bradley was discussed. But he has that "white mark" under his left eye visibly quite often, as does the guy in 60.
And as so often, I doubt there are actors appearing which are very similar to others to (let's say) 95 % but aren't them.

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Post by PeplumParadise » 21/03/2024, 11:38

FatmanDan wrote:
21/03/2024, 1:25
Right, Bradley was discussed. But he has that "white mark" under his left eye visibly quite often, as does the guy in 60.
And as so often, I doubt there are actors appearing which are very similar to others to (let's say) 95 % but aren't them.
I'm not sure what "white mark" you are talking about, but it's the body shape and skin colour that bother me most about the possible ID - this guy is noticeably darker than Harold's usual skin tone and seems too skinny and under-defined. I've always thought it could be Harold, but not enough to make a certain ID and previous opinions have been divided, so at best it would be an uncertain ID. As for someone being ID'd just because they look similar, the volume of "faux", "twin" and "lookalike" actors in our unidentifieds show that just looking somewhat similar is not grounds for making a positive ID.
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Post by PeplumParadise » 21/03/2024, 13:07

I'm wondering if the guard on the right in 33 and 43 might be recent addition "Grey Gangster". Any opinions?
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Post by Stuntman Mike » 21/03/2024, 13:54

PeplumParadise wrote:
21/03/2024, 13:07
I'm wondering if the guard on the right in 33 and 43 might be recent addition "Grey Gangster". Any opinions?
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Seems the same person to me.

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Post by PeplumParadise » 21/03/2024, 21:42

Stuntman Mike wrote:
21/03/2024, 13:54
PeplumParadise wrote:
21/03/2024, 13:07
I'm wondering if the guard on the right in 33 and 43 might be recent addition "Grey Gangster". Any opinions?
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Seems the same person to me.
Added, thank you

I also spotted Romano Moraschini lurking in the background in the market, so he's added too

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