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Does anyone else think that the man identified as Burt Nelson actually looks more like Isarco Ravaioli?
And are there any other opinions on the possible second role for Nazzareno Zamperla?
And are there any other opinions on the possible second role for Nazzareno Zamperla?
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Nelson left, Ravaioli right. Tough call, they really were very similar looking, but from the eyes and hairline I still favour NelsonJohan Melle wrote: ↑16/12/2022, 18:28Does anyone else think that the man identified as Burt Nelson actually looks more like Isarco Ravaioli?
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Mario was Raimondo's son; the latter died in 1962. His (Mario's) first credit was for "Altura" in 1949 as Make-up artist.PeplumParadise wrote: ↑16/12/2022, 12:44Mario Van Riel could maybe be the old man in 4, who is probably listed on IMDb as "Raimondo Van Riel" as Old man, however this hardly looks like someone who would still have been working in 1979, 20 years later, so maybe the "Raimondo" ID is correct? Mario's IMDb credits only commence in 1951.
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In which case the old man would be Raimondo (assuming he is either of them), as he's clearly too old to be MarioFatmanDan wrote: ↑16/12/2022, 18:39Mario was Raimondo's son; the latter died in 1962.PeplumParadise wrote: ↑16/12/2022, 12:44Mario Van Riel could maybe be the old man in 4, who is probably listed on IMDb as "Raimondo Van Riel" as Old man, however this hardly looks like someone who would still have been working in 1979, 20 years later, so maybe the "Raimondo" ID is correct? Mario's IMDb credits only commence in 1951.
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DonePeplumParadise wrote: ↑16/12/2022, 16:24A shame to lose the info on Marra though, maybe you could add a Db topic for him using the images you posted here?
For me in N. 127-128 is absolutely Nazzareno Zamperla.Johan Melle wrote: ↑16/12/2022, 18:28Does anyone else think that the man identified as Burt Nelson actually looks more like Isarco Ravaioli?
And are there any other opinions on the possible second role for Nazzareno Zamperla?
I really don't know. From these pics she looks different, especially for the nose and cheeks.PeplumParadise wrote: ↑16/12/2022, 18:24Based on the image you posted I would say she's the servant front-centre in 51
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These pics only reinforce my impression. Same distinctive cheekbones and face of the shape. To my eyes, pics 3 and 4 match perfectly.PeplumParadise wrote: ↑16/12/2022, 18:38images-side.jpgJohan Melle wrote: ↑16/12/2022, 18:28Does anyone else think that the man identified as Burt Nelson actually looks more like Isarco Ravaioli?
Nelson left, Ravaioli right. Tough call, they really were very similar looking, but from the eyes and hairline I still favour Nelson
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Ravaioli to me, clearly.Johan Melle wrote: ↑16/12/2022, 19:06These pics only reinforce my impression. Same distinctive cheekbones and face of the shape. To my eyes, pics 3 and 4 match perfectly.
And I was damn proud having spotted Lando Buzzanca in 80.... only to find he's yet in the list
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Looks like we have a Mexican stand-off on the Nelson v. Ravaioli question with 2 against 2 then. Unfortunately the young men in the back of the bath house scene seem to be rather interchangeable and this is the only shot where you see him clearly.
I've moved the image to the unidentifieds.
I've moved the image to the unidentifieds.
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Yep! But the image from Ben-Hur is that of in the middle (dressed in white)? If yes we are taking about Isarco for sure.Johan Melle wrote: ↑16/12/2022, 19:06These pics only reinforce my impression. Same distinctive cheekbones and face of the shape. To my eyes, pics 3 and 4 match perfectly.PeplumParadise wrote: ↑16/12/2022, 18:38images-side.jpgJohan Melle wrote: ↑16/12/2022, 18:28Does anyone else think that the man identified as Burt Nelson actually looks more like Isarco Ravaioli?
Nelson left, Ravaioli right. Tough call, they really were very similar looking, but from the eyes and hairline I still favour Nelson
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The Ben-Hur image is in the centreEmiliano wrote: ↑16/12/2022, 20:28Yep! But the image from Ben-Hur is that of in the middle (dressed in white)? If yes we are taking about Isarco for sure.Johan Melle wrote: ↑16/12/2022, 19:06These pics only reinforce my impression. Same distinctive cheekbones and face of the shape. To my eyes, pics 3 and 4 match perfectly.PeplumParadise wrote: ↑16/12/2022, 18:38
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Nelson left, Ravaioli right. Tough call, they really were very similar looking, but from the eyes and hairline I still favour Nelson