Quick Identifications

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Quick identifications
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Re: Quick Identifications

Post by PeplumParadise » 12/08/2019, 11:06

carlos wrote:
12/08/2019, 0:42
PeplumParadise wrote:
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Would that be Mouse Man at the end of the pool table in Sabata? He could be brothers with Antonio Marcolini on the left!vlcsnap-2019-08-11-16h00m09s958.jpg
Speaking of Sabata, Nick, could this be Giulio Mauroni?
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I wouldn't say definitely yes, but looks like it could be - maybe put it as an uncertain

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Post by PeplumParadise » 12/08/2019, 13:24

editing finished, now the fun job of trying to identify several hundred actors in Cleopatra begins!

Starting with this one, looks like Colangelo slightly out of focus in the centre at the back, and John Karlsen (who I thought we might have a topic for, but can't see one) in the "eye" hat. The actor on the right looks familiar too but can't think who he is off the top of my head.

It doesn't help that quite a lot of the extras seem to be English actors, presumably previously contracted when the film originally began shooting in the UK, it was probably cheaper to fly them in than pay them off!
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Post by PeplumParadise » 12/08/2019, 15:12

and the senators - and behind them I suppose noblemen! Could the one at the back on the right with the beard maybe be Gorgon's victim?

I don't recognise any of the others, does anyone else?
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Re: Quick Identifications

Post by PeplumParadise » 12/08/2019, 15:32

could the tallest one in the back row here maybe be Ettore Arena?

and again does anyone recognise anyone else?
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Re: Quick Identifications

Post by Johan Melle » 12/08/2019, 17:56

The filming of Cleopatra lasted for quite a while, and from what I've understood, a lot of the extras worked on the film for some considerable time and many were used in different roles in different scenes. Of course, many are probably not visible (also because a considerable portion of the footage shot ended up being cut).

Anyway, I agree it should be Colangelo in the first pic. Standing in front of him is probably Betsy Bell in a dark wig. At least it resembles her and I know she's supposed to have appeared in the film.

Also agree about Gorgon's victim in the second pic. There's also Aldo Bonamano as the senator on the left.

In the third picture I don't recognize anyone. I don't think it's Ettore Arena.

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Re: Quick Identifications

Post by PeplumParadise » 12/08/2019, 19:17

Johan Melle wrote:
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The filming of Cleopatra lasted for quite a while, and from what I've understood, a lot of the extras worked on the film for some considerable time and many were used in different roles in different scenes. Of course, many are probably not visible (also because a considerable portion of the footage shot ended up being cut).
Yes I've read an interview with Margaret Lee who says she filmed scenes that ended up being cut - I wonder if all that extra footage still exists hidden in a warehouse somewhere. I'm working on head shots of all the clearly visible unidentified actors which i'll put up on CIDb in a day or 2 - there are a lot of them! There are a few Italian-based actors in uncredited parts, though not many of ours that I recognise and a very low number given the amount of actors in the film. In addition to Hendy, Proietti and Fregonese that I already posted there's Furio Meniconi, John Bartha, Mike Brendel and Loris Loddi, and maybe Wilbert Bradley and Van Aikens in the dance sequence.

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Re: Quick Identifications

Post by Johan Melle » 12/08/2019, 19:35

It would be great if there was a restored super-long version some day, but it's probably not very likely.

It's odd that not more of our friends appear, but I'm sure there are more Italian or Italian-based actors to be found here and there. I believe Audrey Anderson (an Italian-based black actress and probably dancer) may also appear in the dance sequence. I also know that dubbers John Gayford and Robert Sommer, as well as model and fotoromanzo actor Gin Mart appear in the film. Michela Roc (Bianca Maria Roccatani) and Rosalba Grottesi are supposed to be among Cleopatra's handmaids. they were both major fotoromanzo stars but played various uncredited roles in the 1960s much like Betsy Bell and Thea Fleming.

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Re: Quick Identifications

Post by carlos » 12/08/2019, 23:00

Old man w/grey beard without his beard in Riuscirà l'avvocato Franco Benenato a sconfiggere il suo acerrimo nemico il pretore Ciccio De Ingras? (1971) ?
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Re: Quick Identifications

Post by Ciavazzaro » 13/08/2019, 15:26

Yes !

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Re: Quick Identifications

Post by PeplumParadise » 13/08/2019, 19:14

A great shot of Son of Moses in the centre, but would that also be Alba at the front?
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I need to try and get head shots of this lot and the different crowd scene with Proietti, so i'll see you next week sometime! :D

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