Treasure Island (1972)


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Post by PeplumParadise » 17/12/2023, 11:36

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French title: L'île au trésor
German title: Die Schatzinsel
Italian title: L'isola del tesoro
Spanish title: La isla del tesoro

Director

John Hough (credited as the director in English prints)

Andrea Bianchi (credited as the director in Spanish prints as "Andrew White")
According to the trivia on IMDb, Bianchi was the 2nd unit director and was responsible for the scenes shot in Italy

Storyline

An adaptation of Robert Louis Stevenson's much-filmed tale of pirates and buried treasure.

Cast

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Post by PeplumParadise » 17/12/2023, 12:47

Credited cast

Actors credited in the Spanish version, in credit order. All actors are listed with roles in the closing credits.

Opening credits
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Orson Welles
as Long John Silver

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Walter Slezak
as Trelawney

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Ángel del Pozo
as Doctor Livesey

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Rik Battaglia
(credited as "Rick Battaglia")
as Captain Smollett

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Aldo Sambrell
as Israel Hands

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Jean Lefebvre
as Ben Gunn

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Kim Burfield
as Jim Hawkins

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Lionel Stander
as Billy Bones
(Lionel is listed in the English opening credits, but not the Spanish)

Closing credits
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Maria Rohm
as Mrs. Hawkins

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Paul Muller
as Blind Pew

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Michael Garland
as Merry

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Alibe Parsons
(credited as "Alibe")
as Mrs. Silver

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José Luis Chinchilla
(credited as "J.L. Chinchilla" in Spanish credits / as "Chinchilla" in English credits)
as Anderson

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Victor Israel
as Morgan

The remaining actors below appear in the Spanish credits, but are missing from the English
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Adolfo Thous
as Black Dog

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Cristino Almodóvar
(credited as "Cristino Almodobar")
as O'Brien

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Miguel Pedregosa
as Gray

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Barta Barri
(credited as "Barta Barry")
as Redruth

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José Jaspe
as Tommy

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Martín Díaz
as Pirate - unidentified

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José María Soler
(credited as "J.Mª Soler")
as Morgan - unidentified
Rather confusingly Soler is credited with the same role as Victor Israel. This is presumably a mistake on behalf of the credit writers, though I didn't hear any characters get called by this name in the film.

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Leopoldo Francés
as Pirate

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Jaime Doria
as Joyce - unidentified

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Rafael García
as Patch - unidentified
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Post by PeplumParadise » 17/12/2023, 12:56

Uncredited actors A-Z

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Rafael Albaicín
as Pirate

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Román Ariznavarreta
as Crewman with Smollett

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Franco Ressel
as Sergeant Dance

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Ruggero Rosi
as Tavern customer listening to Billy Bones' tales

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"Whitefuzzy"
as Tavern customer listening to Billy Bones' tales
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Post by PeplumParadise » 17/12/2023, 13:16

Unidentified actors

Unidentified credited actors
  • Martín Díaz - as Pirate
  • José María Soler - as Morgan. He has 4 credits on IMDb, this being the only one listed with a role, so not much help.
  • Jaime Doria - as Joyce
  • Rafael García - as Patch. He has 4 credits on IMDb, the only other listed with a role has him playing "Cowboy" in a western, so again not much help.
Note - I watched both the English and Spanish versions and did not hear any characters called by the names Morgan, Joyce or Patch (or, for that matter, O'Brien). Victor Israel's character has a strong Welsh accent in the English version, so, Morgan being a typical Welsh name, I assume he has the correct "Morgan" credit, while Soler's is presumably a mistake.

Unidentified actors listed as appearing by other sources, but not identified
  • Juan Manuel Torres Gómez - IMDb with no role.
The opening scenes (images 1-5), both in and outside the tavern, were filmed in Italy, so the background actors present should be Italian. The rest of the film was shot in Spain, so the actors in these scenes should, presumably, be Spanish.
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Post by PeplumParadise » 17/12/2023, 15:50

I have Jaime Doria identified in a handful of roles based on IMDb identifications, though I can't say I'm sure they're all the same person.
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I have 2 possible options I think could be him, I would say he's the top one
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Post by carlos » 17/12/2023, 17:45

PeplumParadise wrote:
17/12/2023, 16:43
Also are you familiar at all with stuntman Juan Manuel Torres Gómez? IMDb lists him as appearing in a number of early 70's westerns, but none with roles. Since he appears to be still alive and working then he must have been pretty young in 1972. Based on images online I wondered if he might be the Albaicin-lookalike in the centre of image 21, though he seems a bit old for someone who is still around.
I'm not familiar with Gómez, he's one who someone thinks they know, I suppose, just like Juan Antonio Rubio... :thinking_face:

That looks like Rafael Albaicín to me in 21, etc.

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Post by PeplumParadise » 17/12/2023, 17:51

carlos wrote:
17/12/2023, 17:45
That looks like Rafael Albaicín to me in 21, etc.
Since I'd already noted the Albaicin resemblance then I'm happy with that - I'll get him added

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Post by carlos » 17/12/2023, 22:40

PeplumParadise wrote:
17/12/2023, 16:43
If you get a chance maybe you can see if any of the unidentified pirates in the Treasure Island topic (which could include pretty much anyone from image 7 onwards, but most likely those from 19 onwards) match with any of the unidentifieds in the 3 westerns.
I worked on this back in 2018 and gave up on Diaz. I still do not see an actor who could be him, maybe the later years are throwing me. In I crudeli (1967) there is an actor that has a close-up and could be credited. Just keep in mind that 2 Spanish credits do not appear so Diaz (although he's in the Spanish credits only) may not appear either.
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Post by PeplumParadise » 18/12/2023, 19:45

carlos wrote:
17/12/2023, 22:40
PeplumParadise wrote:
17/12/2023, 16:43
If you get a chance maybe you can see if any of the unidentified pirates in the Treasure Island topic (which could include pretty much anyone from image 7 onwards, but most likely those from 19 onwards) match with any of the unidentifieds in the 3 westerns.
I worked on this back in 2018 and gave up on Diaz. I still do not see an actor who could be him, maybe the later years are throwing me. In I crudeli (1967) there is an actor that has a close-up and could be credited. Just keep in mind that 2 Spanish credits do not appear so Diaz (although he's in the Spanish credits only) may not appear either.
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Looking at my old head shots from the film I spotted this one on the left, only seen clearly for a moment and otherwise always in the background not seen clearly, who I somehow seem to have missed in the numbered images. I see similarities with the guy from I crudeli, allowing for him being 5 years older, though I wouldn't say for sure they are the same person. What do you think?
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Post by carlos » 18/12/2023, 22:18

PeplumParadise wrote:
18/12/2023, 19:45
Looking at my old head shots from the film I spotted this one on the left, only seen clearly for a moment and otherwise always in the background not seen clearly, who I somehow seem to have missed in the numbered images. I see similarities with the guy from I crudeli, allowing for him being 5 years older, though I wouldn't say for sure they are the same person. What do you think?
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That's much closer but like you I couldn't say for certain either way.

Jaime Doria: the first guy looks promising (tho the 2nd pic on your montage looks like a different guy). I don't think the second choice matches.

Rafael García: I did some research earlier this year. He is credited in Chino, despite IMDb. I couldn't find Lorys or Bidon so Garcia might not appear. I didn't find anyone that looked it matched anyone below in Fábulas or in Treasure Island.
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In the TV episode he is credited, there's not many actors. Here are my pics. I was thinking the younger guys are the best possibility.
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